When Your World Goes Topsy Turvy

Late last week I felt a little like my world had imploded. I was inundated with information that was the unlocking of the proverbial Pandora’s Box. Rather like being a Christian all your life and suddenly finding you don’t believe in the dogma anymore. Yikes!

What Happened?

What you may ask had this effect on me? Ramiel Nagel’s book Cure Tooth Decay. In 250 pages the author, who is not a dentist but a health researcher, had destroyed or attempted to destroy all that I had known to be true for at least 35 years. I could casually dismiss everything he said but it was so well researched and the research answered some longstanding questions. I could not and would not dismiss it just because it wasn’t what I have been taught. Not what I had been taught and not what I am teaching because rightly or wrongly I stick to the party line in whatever office I am working in.

The Why of it All

After all my years of looking at patient’s teeth I am still in wonder that some people no matter what they do still get tooth decay. They floss every day if not twice a day, they brush religiously and watch what they eat and drink and still when they come for their exam and cleaning they leave disappointed by their dental needs. I have had people leave in tears, most notably a woman of about my own age who recently left tearful and discouraged.

She had done everything in the traditional practitioner’s book and still had a return visit required to repair new decay. We gave her a message of hope and told her not to despair but this bad news was just more bad news on top of other bad health news and she was not in the mood.

I might have approached her with some new ideas had I read Cure Tooth Decay earlier. I might not have proposed that it WILL cure tooth decay but that it MIGHT. Most of his ideas fall under the “well it can’t hurt” category and seem worth trying if only for a few weeks. I would never propose that a person with a tooth that hurts delay treatment because often if a tooth hurts it needed to be fixed yesterday (but the author does propose giving it some time).

What the Author Has to Say

Ramiel Nagel states, and there is plenty of research (check out his reference material at the end of every chapter) to prove his statement, that it may all come down to the parotid glands and their relative health. The parotid glands regulate the activity of the nutrient rich dentinal fluid and in some people parotid glands are very well-developed and in others they are not. This might explain why there are people who can drink a 6 pack of Mountain Dew a day and never have a cavity and others if they even look at that same 6 pack will have 6 areas of active decay.

He is also a believer in eating the right foods and while the diet would be very strict if watching what foods go in your mouth stopped decay wouldn’t it be worthwhile? He is an advocate of the principles touted by the Weston Price Foundation and he is especially fond of  fermented cod liver oil and Factor X butter and lots of homemade bone broth to heal existing small areas of decay.

Mr. Nagel would have you eliminate anything with phytic acid and that includes whole wheat products, brown rice and unsoaked nuts like almonds. Don’t for one second think about drinking soda, fruit juice or battery acid (no just kidding on the battery acid) and forget about fluoride, it is a “poison”.

Thyroid Connection

There is even a thyroid connection. The thyroid is regulated by the anterior pituitary gland. Often the relationship of the thyroid to the pituitary is not considered, leaving thyroid treatments ineffective. A malfunctioning thyroid also plays a role in producing tooth decay and gum disease because the thyroid plays a role in maintaining blood calcium levels. To repair thyroid function, the anterior pituitary gland usually needs attention. People on medications that affect their thyroid can have significant tooth decay problems often from lack of saliva to cleanse their teeth. Nagel also contends that people who have tartar are not assimilating their calcium and it is deposited on teeth instead of in bones where it is needed.

This information hits close to home. I form a lot of tartar on my teeth and I clean my teeth and gums regularly. When I have taken a NTx test I show bone loss of an alarming degree on a daily basis and this is no doubt connected to my ongoing battle with Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis. That alone might explain why I have so much tartar on my teeth despite my oral hygiene practices. I am grateful for a low rate of decay despite this malfunction but my diet is quite purposefully low in sugar and acid producing foods ( I don’t even like the taste of soda anymore).

What Should You Do?

I don’t know how to best answer that question other than by asking several questions of you the reader. Do you have a new area of decay every time you go to the dentist? Do you brush at least twice a day? Do you floss once a day? Do you drink soda and/or fruit juice of any kind? Are you a caramel or licorice fanatic? Do you use fermented cod liver oil or X-Factor Butter? What kind of toothpaste do you use? Do you employ a Water-Pik in your daily dental care? These are pretty basic questions and they would help me point you in the right direction but it may not be that simple.

There is one more important question. Are you open to new ideas? If so, read Cure Tooth Decay and take away any useful information you can employ in your day-to-day life. If you vehemently disagree with what the author says then go about your business as usual but you will never again think about dental health in the same way. I guarantee it. If you read the book and have questions, please ask. I have tried several of his suggestions and would happily hear from others who have or are thinking about it.

Events in the Coming Week

One more unrelated item before I close this week. Kathryn Niflis Johnson is holding a discussion group at her house in Woodbury, Minnesota on February 10th from 7:00-8:30. the topic is Thyroid/Adrenal Health and Dr. Paul Ratté is the featured speaker. Chloe Swan, my research buddy, and I will be there to add our two cents worth and we are looking forward to the sharing of ideas. If you live in the area and want to participate just click on the highlighted Thyroid and Adrenal Health and it will link you to the necessary information.




4 responses to this post.

  1. I read the book 3 or 4 years ago because my daughter (the least of the sweet tooths in the family) had 3 cavities. The dentist recommended sealants and to fill the teeth; I was beside myself. We filled the baby teeth cavities, but we did not do the sealants.

    This book definitely offered hope, and we tried it. I did not want my kids to follow the same path my husband and I had. We quickly employed FCLO (fermented cod liver oil), grass-fed ghee, pastured meat, eggs, etc. A few years later, after too much snacking on honey & PB, too much fruit, and dropping FCLO, my son had a cavity that was detected by laser. Within a couple of months after getting back on the wagon, it was no longer detectable. My daughter had a couple detected in baby teeth (ones that had been filled the first time) and one in her 6 year permanent molar :(. Hers didn’t heal so quickly. That was a year ago. This past week, my kids went back to the dentist. My son has NO cavities, and my daughter has 2 insignificant ones in baby teeth and NONE in her molars!

    We had started working on our guts again since March 2013. I have Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and found the book Stop the Thyroid Madness (www.stopthethyroidmadness.com); I cannot recommend it enough. All of my kids have some level of gut issues (acid reflux). Healing our guts, getting rest, managing stress, etc. is critical to our health.

    BTW, I had met a gal last year who was given the “hopeless” diagnosis for her teeth (she would have to get teeth pulled it was so bad). She loosely implemented the FCLO, butter, etc. and the following year, her dentist said that he couldn’t proceed with the procedure because her teeth had improved.


    • Posted by Kris on 16:52 at Monday, July 1, 2013

      Hi Virginia,
      It is always good to hear from someone who has actually tried the recommended treatment and met with success. One thing I have never really understood was how to use the FCLO. Did you have the kids just take it by the spoonful? Or did you have them swish with it?
      I have never worked with lasers but as I understand them they detect decay really early which is often when we can remineralize the decalcified area and never need to have it filled. That was perfect time to catch the decay and get back on the wagon, so to speak. Some dentists want to remove and fill when decay is incipient. I have never worked with a dentist like that and I would not approve of doing that because too many times you can remineralize the area.
      “Stop The Thyroid Madness” is my bible.If you type “thyroid” or “hypothyroidism” in the search box you will find my experience with thyroid disease. It has been a tortuous journey but I am finally about as normal as I will ever be. Thanks to Janie Bowthorpes information I tried T3 only after joining her RT3 group on Yahoo! I believe my RT3 issue came about when I took myself off Syn-crap because I wasn’t getting any better. Every time I went to the doctor I had to increase my meds and it seemed to me if I always had to increase the dose something was getting worse and not better. Taking myself off the meds for a year or two wasn’t a good idea and by the time I went to a doctor I had the classic wired but tired feeling of adrenal fatigue and Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. I wish I had read Janie’s book 10 years ago and I believe I would never have ended up in such dire straits.
      I was able to help my daughter after reading it as well. She had been to many doctors with infertility issues and no one diagnosed thyroid disease. Finally I asked her to see my functional medicine doctor and he did the proper blood panels and found she had thyroid disease at age 32. Sadly, her infertility was irreversible but she is, at least, on Armour and has had two successful IVF births. Those grandsons are my pride and joy and to think we might never have had them had she not found a doctor who would take the proper blood tests and get her thyroid running optimally.
      Thanks for sharing your story with us I would love to hear about more people who have successfully implemented the “Cure Tooth Decay” method. If you would like to share more of your Hashimoto’s journey please feel free to do so anytime.


  2. I have tried the small crevicular brushes Ramiel Nagel sells. My teeth feel cleaner when I use them as suggested in the book and they do clean particles of food out of areas that a normal brush does not. I never use toothpaste but I do use baking soda, hydrogen peroxide and magnesium chloride to rinse my mouth. I have not tried the diet as I don’t suffer from decay issues but if I did I would try them in a second.
    I don’t know what to think of what I am about to say, so keep that in mind. I was recently told by a dentist in our practice that a researcher who studies tooth decay exclusively and is well known (but I don’t know his name he is just known by the profs at the University of Minnesota dental school) claims that research has pretty conclusively proven that acid is not the culprit in decay, it is sugar. Ramiel Nagel claims just the opposite. How one would go about proving who is right and who is wrong I do not know but it is important to keep in mind these differences of opinion.
    I did just read that probiotics may be very useful in the control of periodontitis and perhaps decay. Check this out if you have an interest:


  3. Hi,
    I was wondering if you had tried any of the recommendations in the book and what your thoughts are at this point.


Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: